Kevin D. 
Freudenberg
Mechanical Design and 
Analysis
US ITER 
Team
(865) 
574-1310
 
 
From: Michael 
Zarnstorff [mailto:zarnstor@pppl.gov] 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:17 
AM
To: Phil 
Heitzenroeder
Cc: Freudenberg, 
Kevin D.
Subject: Re: FW: Kevin 
Freudenberg's thermal modeling
Phil and Kevin,
This analysis is very interesting 
and hopeful.  Two thoughts:
a) There is the question of the cooling 
of the rest of the shell, which Phil and I talked about on Friday.  It 
looks to me like the coil cooling may need to the bulk of this, and may be 
capable of doing it. But it should be analyzed, likely by extending Kevin's 
model.
b) This calculation assumes a cooling rate of 0.08 W/cm^2 into the 
gas.  This will imply a calculable temperature rise in the gas, given the 
length of tube, the pressure and pressure drop, and temperature.  The 
cooling tube is 0.19 in diameter => 1.516 cm inside circumference.  The 
specific heat of N2 gas is almost independent of temperature at ~1.05 J/g/K and 
the density of N2 gas is 1.25 g/liter at 1 atmosphere and 283K.  If we 
assume an inlet pressure of 150 psia and a 14.7 psi drop, we can calculate flow 
rates using http://www.pipeflowcalculations.com/pressuredrop/index.htm 
.  I don't know the cooling pipe lengths, so I'll calculate several 
representative lengths.  I get
length   
heat     gas    mass     
delta T
         
flow    flow    flow  
(m)      (W)     
(CFM)   (g/s)     
(K)
-----------------------------------------------------------
for 
283K:
-----------------------------------------------------------
2        
24.      1.4     
8.0      
2.9
3        
36       1.1     
6.4      
5.4
4        
49       0.93    
5.5      8.5
for 
150K:
----------------------------------------------------------
2        
24               
11       
2.2
3        
36               
8.7      
4.0
4        
49               
7.4      6.3
So, in order for 
the gas flow to carry away 0.08 W/cm2, the temperature rise along the flow and 
along the coil will be several degrees and thus comparable to the temperature 
variations you are trying to control across the pack and structure.  If the 
tubes are longer than ~2m, the variations along the pack are significant and may 
determine the cool down rate.
As expected, the heat carrying capacity of 
the gas improves as the temperature decreases, due to the  change in 
density.
Mike.
At 04:05 PM 5/16/2008, Phil 
Heitzenroeder wrote:
 
Mr. Philip Heitzenroeder
Head, 
Mechanical Engineering Division
e-mail:  pheitzen@pppl.gov
Phone:  
609-243-3043
Fax:  
609-243-3030
 
From: Phil 
Heitzenroeder 
Sent: Friday, 
May 16, 2008 2:47 PM
To: David 
Gwinn
Cc: Steve Raftopoulos; 
Don Rej; Hutch Neilson
Subject: 
Kevin Freudenberg's thermal modeling
 
Dave,
Attached is 
Kevin’s latest effort on thermal modeling.  Please let  me know if you 
think a conference call would be useful to compare thoughts.  
Phil
 
 
From: 
Freudenberg, Kevin D. [mailto:freudenbergk@ornl.gov] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:38 
PM
To: Phil 
Heitzenroeder
Subject: 
 
 
 
Kevin D. 
Freudenberg
Mechanical Design and Analysis
US ITER 
Team
(865) 574-1310